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Winter 2010/2011
Facebook.com Page for Items of Preterist/Idealist Interest
is where most of the action is going on these days with Idealist
studies. Also, see
Preterist
Idealism at PreteristArchive.com
Summer
2010:
Administrative Classification: "Idealist Judaism"
"Idealist
Judaism" flourished under King David, as evidenced in the Psalms of his
composition. This form of Idealism recognizes that even
David's glorious earthly kingdom was only a pale reflection of the
Lord's heavenly kingdom: which is believed to be a "present" reality
(FROM everlasting TO everlasting).
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Rev. Alfred
Bryant (1852)
“The spiritual government which Christ
exercises over the people of God commenced with the first believer on
earth, and has never since been intermitted, and never will be. Over
Abel, and Enoch, and Noah, and the tens of thousands who died in the
faith, and went home to heaven before His first advent, the Great
Mediator reigned as effectually by His word and Spirit, and dwelt in
them by faith and love, as over Paul, or the millions who have lived
since” (Millennarian Views: With Reasons For Receiving Them,
pg. 86).
Jeremiah 29:11-14 ‘For I know the
plans that I have for you,’ declares the Lord, ‘plans for welfare and
not for calamity to give you a future and a hope. ‘Then you will call
upon Me and come and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. ‘You will
seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. ‘I will
be found by you,’ declares the Lord, ‘and I will restore your fortunes
and will gather you from all the nations and from all the places where I
have driven you,’ declares the Lord, ‘and I will bring you back to the
place from where I sent you into exile.’
2/17/10:
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Mike Vinson "All
Dispensational or Preterist interpretations of scripture
deny the ever relevant character of
scripture. What Mr. Manalo was doing when he said the four
angels were four specific men at a specific time in history, was to
deny that this part of this prophecy had any relevance to the men
who read this book in the days of the apostle John. He was denying
that those words had any relevance to any generation but his own and
those who were living when those four world leaders were living.
What the Dispensational or Preterist
approach to God's word does is to say that no one but the first
generation at the time of Christ, as the Preterists teach, or the
last generation just before the return of Christ, as
dispensationalists teach, must "keep the sayings of the prophecy of
this book." Considering the warning at the end of the book,
this is not a very good doctrine. This book is addressed to "the
seven churches." Read our study on The Spiritual Significance of The
Number Seven. The use of the number
seven tells us that this book is addressed to the complete church of
God down through the past two thousand years. As this book
clearly tells us, this prophecy is
for "he that hath an ear" in every generation since Christ.
The book of Revelation is but the capstone to God's Word. It cannot
be separated from the rest of the Bible. "Man must live by every
word that proceeds out of the mouth of God" not just the words of
the book of Revelation. But the book of Revelation makes it clear
that this is a book whose words are always "at hand," and it is a
book which is to be "kept" and the things in this book must all
"shortly come to pass." As mentioned earlier, this is stated at its
very beginning and at its very ending:
Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words
of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein :
for the time is at hand."
http://d.scribd.com/docs/1fla3exn7aabcvb2x9h0.pdf
1/28/10:
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Eliz. Cunningham -
The End is (Always) Near (2008) "The word apocalypse does not
actually mean the end time or disaster but revelation. It comes from
the Greek apokaluptein, to uncover. As a storyteller, I can relate.
The end of the story is when all is revealed. As a reader, I
confess, I often sneak a peek at the last page. As a human being
living out her life, I can't know my own end. Yet, like everyone, I
have faced many endings."
1/8/10: 10th Century B.C. Evidence
of Idealist Judaism Discovered in Israel
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Israeli Prof. Deciphers Earliest Hebrew Text It is the earliest
known Hebrew writing, dating to David's reign in the 10th century
B.C. - "This text is a social statement, relating to slaves, widows
and orphans" ! (Text reflects Idealist Judaism cf. James 1:27)
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"The present
inscription provides social elements similar to those found in
the biblical prophecies and [are] very different from the
prophecies written by other cultures postulating glorification
of the gods and taking care of their physical needs"
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Prof. Galil also said
the artifact proves that Hebrew was a written language as early
as the 10th century B.C. and may mean that portions of the Old
Testament were written centuries earlier than scholars generally
believe.
1: You shall not do [it], but
worship the [Lord].
2: Judge the sla[ve] and the wid[ow], judge the orph[an]
3: [and] the stranger. [Pl]ead for he infant / plead for the po[or
and]
4: the widow. Rehabilitate [the poor] at the hands of the king.
5: Protect the po[or and] the slave / [supp]ort the stranger.
Escape
From Tribulation: Pella/Jerusalem as a Type
Jerusalem as a Picture of the Heart
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Luke 21:20-24, "When
you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its
desolation has come near. Then let those who are in Judea flee
to the mountains, and let those who are inside the city depart, and
let not those who are out in the country enter it, for these are
days of vengeance, to fulfill all that is written." |
Luke 21:34-36,
"Watch yourselves lest your hearts be weighed
down with dissipation and drunkenness and cares of this life, and
that day come upon you suddenly like a trap. For it will come
upon all who dwell on the face of the whole earth. But stay awake at
all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all
these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the
Son of Man." |
Ps 31:4 "Free me from the trap that is set
for me, for you are my refuge |
1Ti 6:9 -
People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and
into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and
destruction. // Re 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth,
and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city:
and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. // Ps
32:7 - You are my hiding place; you will protect me from
trouble and surround me with songs of deliverance. Selah
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Todd Dennis -
The figure used in Hebrews 9 is the Tabernacle in
the Wilderness, not Herod's Temple in Jerusalem (2009)
Seeking to represent for the author of Hebrews, in the face of the
proposition that Hebrews 9:8 refers to one of Jerusalem's temples.
"Futurist commentators who wish to mystically make
Paul's figure in Hebrews 9 refer to a temple in Jerusalem (such as a
supposed future “third temple”) are misreading the passage as well as
those who wish to make Paul's figure refer to the fall of Jerusalem by
the armies of Titus in AD70."
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Todd Dennis
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Hyper Preterism's AD70 Focal Point is
Fundamentally Different From Christianity's Focal Point of the Cross
(2009) "When the life of Jesus was draining away on the cross, He
Himself noted that the redemptive work had been accomplished, in saying
"it is finished". Finished (Tetelestai, from the verb
teleo) means “to complete, to accomplish". Though some HyPs
may try to diminish the meaning of the cross and Jesus' declaration
prior to His sacrificial death (which diminishment in itself serves as a
litmus test for error), it was of the utmost significance. In fact, in
order to maintain continuity with Christianity, it must remain the
central focus. To diminish the centrality of the cross for redemptive
accomplishment is to fundamentally alter the message that has been
handed down and delivered throughout all generations. To diminish the
cross event is not just a small matter of end times disagreement;
Rather, it is an attack on the very foundations of Christianity."
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On Leaving Full
Preterism After A Decade - And The Doctrinal Advancement Which
Comes From Properly Seeing AD70 As Symbol, Not Substance (2008) "Though full preterist systems
don't dispute that spiritual truths can be taken as applications
of AD70, this idealist hybrid takes exactly the opposite view --
that AD70 was the application of the spiritual realities.
..The most common complaint against the full preterist view is
its inability to answer the "what now?" questions... but there
is a concern that runs much deeper. By identifying
the corporate "consummation of the ages" as having been settled
for all time in AD70, the individual believers' "transition
period" is removed from today, being made a first century
reality alone. This error neglects the importance of the
"glory to glory" process at work in the life of the believer,
and chooses rather to accept that there is no sin, death, or
devil to be contended with today. In short, full preterist
doctrine chooses the corporate over the individual, and this
betrayal results in much suffering."
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Hyper Preterism's AD70 Focal Point for
Redemption and the New Covenant is Fundamentally Different From
Christianity's Focal Point of the Cross
(2009) "When the life of Jesus was draining away on the cross,
He Himself noted that the redemptive work had been accomplished,
in saying "it is finished". Finished (Tetelestai,
from the verb teleo) means “to complete, to accomplish".
Though some HyPs may try to diminish the meaning of the cross
and Jesus' declaration prior to His sacrificial death (which
diminishment in itself serves as a litmus test for error), it
was of the utmost significance. In fact, in order to maintain
continuity with Christianity, it must remain the central focus.
To diminish the centrality of the cross for redemptive
accomplishment is to fundamentally alter the message that has
been handed down and delivered throughout all generations. To
diminish the cross event is not just a small matter of end times
disagreement; Rather, it is an attack on the very foundations of
Christianity.
12/31/9:
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Website progress: none. Check
out my Facebook page though.. there is something happening there.
I realize now that getting bogged down in classifying Philosophical
Idealism turned me off to the project. Philosophical
Idealism is clearly a
major player in the overall Idealist discussion, dating back to, at
least, the days of Plato as it does ; However, as it turns out, these dimly lit
insights into reality are not nearly as gratifying as that form of
Idealism which arises out of direct consideration of the person and
work of Jesus Christ. The Christological Idealism in the
Old Testament will be where I pick up the study. Accordingly,
I will start with Hengstenberg's "Christology of the Old Testament"
to be posted next. Thanks for your patience.
10/13/9:
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"Spiritually Discerned Bible Study" Paltalk room,
24/7. Most gather during "live" evening times at 10:00 PM, EST
(Eastern Standard Time, east coast of U.S. time), on Tuesdays,
Wednesdays, Thursdays, and then on Saturday mornings, and for most
of the day on Sundays.
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Learning Source:
http://www.onlythebible.net/bible_studies
From this location, you can select a topic of interest. You can also
download most of these subjects as MP3, along with their associate
scriptures showing the reasoning behind the audio presentations, as
the Lord wills.
9/28/9:
9/1/9:
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F.E. Marsh
(1970) "A minister who was talking with a Christian worker said:
"Christ came again twenty years ago, when He came into my heart."
Whereupon the Christian worker replied: "I read in my Bible that
certain things are to happen when Christ returns, and among them the
dead in Christ shall be raised and the living believers in Him will
be changed. Have either of these taken place?" The question non-plussed
the minister!" (1000 Bible Study Outlines, p. 91)
8/31/9:
8/30/9:
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Frederic W. Farrar:
Christ Wails Over
Jerusalem (1899) "This incident is
an allegory. The soul of each one amongst us is such a
Jerusalem. The soul has its history
of shame or of faithfulness, and its prophecy of triumph or of
doom, just as
Jerusalem had. Jerusalem had
warnings.. Jerusalem found that
it was so, and so shall all men who persist in defying the mercy of
God which calleth us to repentance."
Joseph Wood (1906)
"Inspiration is that which is of universal application. If any utterance
is only for an age, and local in its interpretation, we do not regard it as
inspired. The Psalms, for instance, were mostly suggested by local
considerations, the trials, the joys, the experiences of David and others,
under peculiar circumstances. But, nevertheless, we feel as we read them
that they pass beyond the limits of the local and the individual— they
belong to humanity—they are true of human nature and life everywhere. Or
take Christ's prophecy of the destruction of Jerusalem. It was spoken at
Jerusalem about Jerusalem, and in a manner which seemed limited to
Jerusalem. But had the prophecy been true only of that city of sorrows, it
would never have been regarded as inspired. Whereas Christ's principle was
this : that the doom pronounced on Jerusalem was universally applicable, and
that it was but a style and specimen of God's judgment everywhere. The
judgment comes wherever there is evil grown ripe for judgment, wherever
corruption is complete. And the gathering of the Roman eagles to the carcase
is but a specimen of the way in which judgment at last overtakes any city,
any country, and any man in whom evil has reached the point where there is
no possibility of cure. We who have lived through the last fifty years have
seen the eagles gathered together in Naples, in America, in France, in
Bulgaria. The Lord's judgment on Jerusalem has been fulfilled many times—it
was not simply of local but of universal application." (The Bible, what it
is and is not [lects.], p. 97)
5/15/9:
3/28/9:
3/22/9:
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Rev. Alfred
Bryant (1852)
“The spiritual government which Christ
exercises over the people of God commenced with the first believer on
earth, and has never since been intermitted, and never will be. Over
Abel, and Enoch, and Noah, and the tens of thousands who died in the
faith, and went home to heaven before His first advent, the Great
Mediator reigned as effectually by His word and Spirit, and dwelt in
them by faith and love, as over Paul, or the millions who have lived
since” (Millennarian Views: With Reasons For Receiving Them,
pg. 86).
3/8/9:
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Preterist Idealism:
A Statement on "Preterist Idealism" in Bennett's Apology (2009)
"Dee Dee had mentioned that some FP would run
with the pic. when she had posted it, which is why I said "couldn't
resist" in my email. At the time they were being very friendly to
Pret. Idealism which is "modern" according to TD and still sees the
Res. of dead / 2nd Coming etc. as past but ongoing, so really should
not be accepted by anyone arguing from the "2000 years of church
history" view IMO. I saw it as a way to "kill 2 birds with one
stone" so to speak." [My view is that the eschaton is
past, present and future in Jesus Christ.. as in "Jesus is the same
yesterday, today and forever." and "I
am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who
was, and who is to come, the Almighty." The
attitude of earnest expectation for the coming of the Lord and
resurrection from the dead which refused to wane even during in the
Middle Ages is a discipline worth keeping. The Preterist worldview
pinches the ability to perceive the entire field of prophetic
fulfillment by an unbalanced dedication to that which can be seen.]
2/1/9:
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Historical
Idealism:
Willibald Beyschlag
"The common error..
of conceiving the parousia as a single historical event instead of
the whole course of Christ's victory and triumph over the historical
world, dominates also the writer of the Apocalypse. But this error
marks simply the necessary limits of prophecy, which Paul describes
in the words (1 Cor. xiii. 12): "Now we see (in our prophecy)
through a glass in a riddle, but then face to face." To see the
things of the future face to face is granted only to the after life
; to him who looks forward the future appears only in the mirror of
the present ; the symbol of the future hovers before him in the
signs of his time. Hence the conflict of Christian history and the
hope of eternal victory were to the writer of the Apocalypse
symbolically reflected in the confusions of his time ; and if he saw
close at hand the eternal triumph of the kingdom of God, he simply
erred in the same way as Isaiah or his greater post-Exilic
successor, the former of whom expected that the Assyrian oppression
and deliverance from it, and the latter that the Babylonian
captivity and deliverance, alone separated them from the Messianic
salvation." (He is probably a good
representative of "German Idealism", but all of that will be
dissected here in due time. IdealistArchive.com has a great
future ahead!)
12/4/8:
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Been adding a bunch
of stuff... I'll line the out here as time allows (moving to Alaska
shortly, so its been a super busy fall.. thanks for your patience)
// In the meantime, check out
Preterist-Idealism Study Archive
10/6/8:
8/28/8:
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Historical:
G.K. Beale Study Archive
"He’s an idealist and he’s an evangelical. Almost all idealists used
to be liberal, but now you want to be a scholar and all this kind of
stuff." (Tommy Ice)
| "Idealist G. K.
Beale characterizes Revelation as “a symbolic portrayal of the
conflict between good and evil, between the forces of God and of
Satan. . . . a timeless depiction of this struggle.” (John Noe)
7/24/8:
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Early Church
Idealism: The
Shepherd of Hermas "Who then is she?" I say. "The Church," saith he. I said
unto him, "Wherefore then is she aged?" "Because," saith he, "she was created
before all things; therefore is she aged; and for her sake the world was
framed."
7/18/7:
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B.F. Westcott:
Thoughts on Revelation and Life
"NOW when we read the apostolic
words, and picture to ourselves the sorrows which they illuminated — when we
feel that in the portraiture of the perils of early believers we have the
record of true struggles, and know that the essential elements of human
discipline must always be the same — we cannot, I think, fail to recognise
in the trials of the Hebrews of the first age an image of the peculiar
trials by which we are beset ; and so by their experience we may gain the
assurance that for us also there is the promise of larger wisdom where they
found it in wider views of Christ's Person and Work, that the removal of
those things that are shaken is brought about in order that those things
which are not shaken may remain in serener and simpler beauty.
7/10/8:
Response: It is
truly the macro scale that is the focal point of all
Bible prophecy, and seen as such there is only one substance -
the profound redemptive work of Jesus Christ. As in
Matthew 5:17, Christ is the fulfillment of the law.
However, for the individual, this must be personally received,
and is not receivable in history alone. To say that the
law is fulfilled for all in history is nothing short of
Universalism -- which is the ultimate hurdle that all "single
referent" systems must overcome... regardless of the number of
"associations" or "applications."
5/22/8:
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Historical:
Kim
Riddlebarger:
What About the "Great" Tribulation? "A second reason why this
question is important has to do with the rise of various forms of
preterism (full-preterism, which is considered a heresy; and so-called
“partial” preterism, which is not) which contend that Christ returned in
A.D. 70 to execute judgment upon apostate Israel, the city of Jerusalem,
and the Jewish temple and its sacrificial system. Those who hold to the
various forms of preterism believe that this great tribulation spoken of
by Jesus (Matthew 24:21) has come and gone with the events associated
with the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple by the Romans. In
light of the tendency to relegate a time of "great" tribulation to the
distant past or imminent future, it is important to survey the biblical
teaching in this regard. As we will see, this time of “great
tribulation” cannot be tied exclusively to the events of A.D. 70, or to
the very end. God’s people may face such tribulation throughout the
entire time from Christ’s redemptive tribulation on the cross, until the
end of the age."
4/24/8:
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Modern: Todd Dennis -
Israel's History a Type - From Beginning to
End "Sometimes, however, in an
attempt to "confirm" a prophecy, a rush to judgment is made, whereby a
mistake brings disrepute upon the supposed author. This happens often
regarding supposed prophecies about "the end of the world." For almost
2,000 years, futurist Christians have predicted the end of the world in
their near futures, only to have their expectations crushed when the
earth did not blow up on cue. Repeated failures have brought an odium of
shame to the Bible and the Lord, even though the fault was entirely with
those who mistook the prophecies for something they were not. With
Hyper Preterism, the miscues usually accrue in the other direction --
declaring something as completed when in fact it was not."
4/23/8:
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INsignificance
of AD70: Todd Dennis -
Matthew 26:64 is NOT a "Preterist Time Indicator"
Pointing to AD70 "In short, the usage
of "Apo Arti" in Matthew 26:64 [Apo ("from" - Strongs 575) and Arti
("now on" - Strong's 737)] is highly suggestive of the themes that have
been previously offered at this blog ; that is, a series of revelatory
recognitions of the power and glory of Jesus Christ's dominance by
friend and foe alike. Though the typically pret-friendly Weymouth
translation would like to make Jesus say "later on, you will see.." this
is not really honest. I would rather say that it was simply a mistake,
but I find it impossible to believe that neither
Richard Francis Weymouth
("If this belief ever obtains general acceptance
the earlier date of the Apocalypse will also be regarded as fully
established. For it will then be seen that the book describes beforehand
events which took place in 70 A.D.") nor
Earnest Hampden-Cook
(co-editor and author of "The Christ
Has Come") were aware of the importance of this passage regarding their
Preterist assumptions. However, not only is there no sense of futurity
in this very emphatic Greek phrase, but rather we see quite the
opposite. "
4/20/8:
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INsignificance
of AD70: Todd Dennis -
Matthew 10:23 is NOT a "Preterist Time
Indicator" pointing to AD70 (2008)
"It has become a working assumption of Hyper Preterism that the "coming"
passages in the New Testament refer to AD70. And the eisegetical
presupposition that Matthew 10:23 is a "(Hyper) Preterist time indicator"
is considered to be unassailable, even though there is not a hint of
reference to AD70 in the text or context of the chapter from which to
support this conclusion."
4/16/8:
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INsignificance
of AD70: Todd Dennis -
Matthew 16:27-28 is Not About AD70 (2008) "Why would we expect
the Lord to perform his acts of power and glory just once — be it in
the past or the future? What good does that do all the other
generations? It seems to me that all prophecy ultimately finds
its accomplishment in Christ internally and personally, as opposed
to externally and historically. Even the cross must be received, and
each follower must bear it as Jesus said."
4/10/8:
4/4/8:
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Philosophical/Gnostic:
The Gospel According
to Pagels "Dealing
with each topic in her book, Ms. Pagels does not mention crucial
evidence concerning Gnostics and Catholics, and distorts what she
does mention. She falsely maintains that Catholics insisted upon a
physical view of resurrection (as compared to the Gnostics), when a
spiritual view is clearly represented from Paul in the first century
until Origen in the third century. She asserts that Gnostics did not
concern themselves with authority, when in fact they often branded
those who disagreed with them as corrupt materialists who were
constitutionally incapable of understanding the world of spirit.
Attempting to say that the Gnostics were feminists, she ignores
texts from Nag Hammadi, as well as Gnostic sources that had been
known for centuries before the library's discovery, that portray
"Wisdom" (Sophia), the feminine counterpart of the true, masculine
God, as literally hysterical — jealous of divine power, but unable
to create life on her own, and therefore vindictive. Martyrdom was a
common threat to Gnostics and Catholics, and not at all a fate that
the Fathers of the Church wanted Christians generally to seek;
Gnostics could be as ferocious as Catholics in claiming unique
insight, and the knowledge that transcends this world was every bit
as much a Catholic as a Gnostic quest.
Appearing in a book
as well written as Ms. Pagels's, her anachronisms have undermined
public understanding of early Christianity. Gnosticism proved to be
the most powerful philosophical and religious movement of its time
because it insisted without compromise that the only truth that
matters transcends this corrupt world. Gnostics often denigrated
women as creatures of corruption, condemned any disagreement with
their teaching as materialist fantasy, and denied that sexuality had
any place in the realm of spirit. Trying to turn this orientation
into existentialism, or feminism, or an embrace of the world's
physicality, will only work with an extremely selective handling of
the evidence, and deploys a laundered view of its subject.
3/5/8:
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Symbols/Temple: Alan
R. Kerr
The Temple of Jesus' Body: The Temple Theme in the Gospel of John
(2002) "This book is a study of the Johannine Christian response to
the fall of the Jerusalem Temple in 70 ce. A crucial text in this
investigation is Jn 2.13-22 and its context, which provide a lens
through which other texts in John are viewed. Kerr's examination of
the Temple festivals of Passover, Tabernacles, Dedication suggests
that in Jesus fulfils and replaces these, while in the case of the
Sabbath he effects a transformation. The overall conclusion is that
the Johannine Jesus replaces and fulfils the Jerusalem Temple."
2/22/8:
2/17/8:
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HI:
Kim Riddlebarger
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Interview with A-Team, Part Three "I do see the events of A. D. 70
as marking that time when Israel became desolate which led to Israel’s
diaspora into the nations (Matthew 23:37-39). As I understand it, all
forms of preterism (whether that be the heretical hyper-preterists who
deny the bodily resurrection and Christ’s second advent, or the orthodox
partial-preterists who affirm the bodily resurrection and Christ’s
second advent) tend to agree in terms of seeing the end of the age as
occurring in 70 A.D., as well as believing that Jesus truly returned in
the heavens at that time. Many of these writers also reject the
distinction between the two ages (as Reformed amillennarians would
define it) along with the distinction between the already and the not
yet."
2/2/8:
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HI:
G.K. Beale
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Peace and Mercy Upon the Israel of God: The OT
Background in Galatians 6:16 (1999)
"This essay has contended that Paul’s reference to "new creation" and the
pronouncement of "peace and mercy" on the readers in Gal 6,15-16 is best
understood against the background of Isa 54,10 and the surrounding context
of similar new creation themes elsewhere in Isa 32–66, which are echoed also
earlier in Galatians, especially in 5,22-26. The analysis confirms those
prior studies which have concluded that "the Israel of God" refers to
all Christians in Galatia, whether Jewish or Christian."
2/2/8:
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G.K. Beale -
"Babylon the Great'' is the entire corrupt economic-religious
system.. Though most past commentators have tended to identify
Babylon solely with ungodly Roman culture, or the apostate Church,
or Apostate Israel, it is better to see these identifications as not
mutually exclusive" (The Book of Revelation p. 885-886)
1/29/8:
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Ideablogging:
Why I am not a Dispensationalist (and why you should not be either)
"I don’t know how anyone could be a dispensationalist [be that of
the Futurist or Preterist variety] after taking a look
at this. I think this image makes it clear that the Bible is a
unified book with a unified message about the Kingdom of God,
culminating in the person and work of Jesus Christ."
1/27/8:
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FREE ONLINE BOOKS : Edgar
Whitaker Work -
"Biblical Idealism in Literature" (From The Bible in English
Literature) "THE ultimate test of any literature lies in its power
to awaken the mind and heart of man to great thoughts and important
endeavors. If literature cannot thus announce a new day of life and
service to us, it has failed to attain the highest function of
literature. It may inform and instruct, it may prove itself to be in
many ways a literature of knowledge, but if it be not also a
literature of power, calculated to stir the being of man with a new
vision of life, it has fallen far short in its usefulness. It is
literature, perhaps, but it is not creative literature. It does not
permeate the deep places of life: it does not help to build the
Temple of the Soul. Judged in this way the Bible is preeminently a
literature of power. " (1917)
1/26/8:
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Levertoff -
Love and the Messianic Age - In Hitherto Untranslated Hasidic
Writings with Special Reference to the Fourth Gospel (1923) An
interesting work which seeks to explain the distinction between
objective and subjective, while viewing the Messianic Age as the
"time" when both become one. "He who comprehends the spiritual
meaning of the Word of God and receives it into the innermost
chambers of his heart is called 'the friend and brother of God, and
the holy temple of the Divine Spirit.'"
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Ideablogging:
Shadows of the cross
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Administrative: Added
working definition for "Hyper Idealism" -
HYPER IDEALISM (Personal revelation
preferred above strict adherence to the Word of God) - In the
future, this will be focused more on Gnosticism, which will be made
synonymous with Hyper Idealism
Perhaps THE major driving
force behind the creation of this website has been to present a
hermeneutical system which appreciates the Christological focus of
prophecy and eschatology, without forsaking the Word of God for
spiritualism and mysticism -- which so often is the case with "heavenly
minded" people. The likes of Swedenborg bring - in my
opinion - disgrace to Christ and Christianity and are to be cautiously
avoided. Universalist Idealists, such as certain Quakers or
J. Preston Eby, likewise take whatever benefit their personalizing
applications offer, and turn them instead into dangerous lures to what
is an overall dangerous system. In almost all cases, the
lack of diligence with hermeneutical study in the manifest Word of God
is a clue to this tendency. Hence, such unfettered systems are
classified as "Hyper" Idealism. The likes of Swedenborg bring - in my
opinion - disgrace to Christ and Christianity and are to be cautiously
avoided. Universalist Idealists, such as certain Quakers or
J. Preston Eby, likewise take whatever benefit their personalizing
applications offer, and turn them instead into dangerous lures to what
is an overall dangerous system. In almost all cases, the
lack of diligence with hermeneutical study in the Bible is a clue to
this tendency. Ultimately, drifting upon this sea of
mysticism shows a disrespect for the Bible as the manifest Word of God.
Hence, such unfettered systems are classified as "Hyper" Idealism.
Though the materials will be archived here, they will be segregated in
the "/hyper" category (or on the whatsnew pages)
1/25/8:

1/24/8:
1/23/8:
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Back to action!
Thanks for your patience.. been a LOT of progress this fall.
Mostly, I reformatted the entire PreteristArchive.com website to
reflect my reclassification of ALL full preterism as "Hyper
Preterism" -- Also, there have been amazing advances in the
Preterist Movement (particularly in the hyper preterist splinter),
and a little in the Futurist one. Details will be forthcoming.
2008 is going to be a very exciting year!
12/10/7:
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Kim Riddlebarger :
Eschatology Q & A: What Are the
Strengths and Weaknesses of the
Different Millennial Views? (2008)
"As for weaknesses, there are many.
One is that the presuppositions of dispensationalism (which, despite
protests to the contrary, is a
hermeneutic) cannot be sustained.
The belief that God has distinct
redemptive purposes for Israel and
for the Gentiles is highly
problematic in light of a text like
Ephesians 2:11-22. Another serious
problem with dispensationalism is
the way in which the "literal
interpretation" of Scripture is
worked out in practice. The
dispensational stress upon
"literalism" actually amounts to an
Israel-centered hermeneutic, largely
taken from the Old Testament
prophets which then predetermines
what the New Testament authors can
tell us about Israel. "
11/1/7:
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StudyArchive:
The
INsignificance of AD70 -
"Many are careful, however, not to overstate the importance of the
fall of Jerusalem in AD70, recognizing how
easily some are led astray by overestimating what that event
accomplished. This page will archive such
comments, seeking to show where a reasonable line may be
drawn between appreciation and overappreciation."
10/5/7:
10/2/7:
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Book by Modern Idealist! Donald James
Perry -
Redirectionalism: Absolute Orthodoxy and the
Revelation of Jesus Christ
(2004) "Our interpretation of eschatology rests on Christ's
coming, as defined by His coming to His Firstfruits. Our conclusions
result in an interpretation that salvation is a process for each
individual and the church the exact same way it was for those who
lived during the generation of Jesus Christ. We understand that we
today must live and think just as the apostles and Jesus Christ, if
we, too, are to meet Christ. We cannot depart from the
sanctification and way of the Firstfruits (2 Cor. 11:4), for if we
could, that would then make us unorthodox, and leave us without a
claim to orthodoxy."
9/30/7:
9/27/7:
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Saint Bonaventure Study Archive
- Student of both Theological and
Philosophical Idealism ""From memory and intelligence is breathed forth love, which is the tie between the two. These three--the generating mind, the word, and love--are in the soul as memory, intelligence, and will, which are consubstantial, coequal, and coeval, mutually immanent. If
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9/26/7:
9/25/7:
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Hermeneutics:
Interaction on David Field's article "Idealism and Double
Fulfillment" "The
idealist’s desire to be inclusive and general results in
incoherence. And, funnily enough, you’ve lost coherence in an
attempt to gain something which you think the preterist/futurist
lacks when in fact they (so long as they do their
association/application thing seriously) not only have it but are
the only ones who have grounds for having it and holding it stably
and securely."
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HI:
Johannes Oecolampadius Study Archive "Observe here,
whoever acts as a preacher, [the nature of] your office. For the
task is, that with Isaiah you may first be a disciple rather than a
teacher, and may be among those who have seen God, whom Scripture
calls θεοδιδάκτους [taught by God]. May you also be called by God,
as was Aaron, and not like Nadab and Abihu, and Korah, and others.
May the desire of Uzziah first die to you, who intruded into sacred
things from his own audacity. [Such desire] dies, however, if you
do not receive glory from people. For from arrogance is born in the
mind the contagious disease of leprosy, which is a symbol of
heresy. In the Scriptures, however, if you search them, you
will see God. And when Uzziah has died, you may at once declare God
fullest and best. This is not a perceptible unction to you, or a
rite consisting in ceremonies, nor were bishop's hands furnishing
[it]. But the sincere heart will be fit for the Holy Spirit and
heavenly unction."
9/24/7:
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EC: St.
Cyril Study Archive "Although Christ is but one, yet
he is understood by us under a variety of forms : He is the
tabernacle on account of the human body in which he dwelt. He is the
table, because he is our bread of life. He is the ark, which has the
law of God inclosed within, because he is the word of the Father. He
is the candlestick, because he is our spiritual light. He is the
altar of incense, because he is a sweet-smelling odor of
sanctification. He is the altar of burnt sacrifice, because he is
the victim, by death upon the cross, for the sins of the whole
world."
9/23/7:
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MI:
Scott Thompson
How Heaven and Earth Pass Away
(2007) "The way into the "new"
: Jerusalem, age, birth, man, heavens and earth, etc., all were very
much open long before AD70. The translation from "old" to "new" was,
however, waiting to be revealed in a most overt way for all to see.
As the Word of God says in Hebrews 9, "the way into the holiest of
all was "not made manifest while the first tabernacle was
still standing.""
9/22/7:
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EC:
Second "Clement" Study Archive
"Wherefore, brethren, if we do the
will of God our Father, we shall be of the first Church, which
is spiritual, which was created before the sun and the moon; but
if we do not the will of the Lord, we shall be of the scripture
that saith, My house was made a den of robbers. So therefore let
us choose rather to be of the Church of life, that we may be
saved."
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Second Clement (140-160)
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this
flesh is the
counterpart and copy
of the spirit."
9/18/7:
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HI:
Gregory K. Beale Study Archive
"The kingdom ending is, of course, Israel, but this time it is her
definitive end. Rome would destroy Jerusalem and her temple in AD 70.
Joel’s language of the earth’s destruction in Acts 2 is also appropriate
as a figurative portrayal of the temple’s destruction, since, as we have
seen so often earlier, the temple itself and its parts symbolized the
cosmos.”
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HI:
Idealist
Quakers Study Archive
"We see no need of directing men to the type for the antitype, neither to the outward temple, nor yet to
Jerusalem, neither to Jesus Christ or his
blood [outwardly], knowing that neither the righteousness of faith, nor the
word of it doth so direct.’”
9/17/7:
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Website Introduction Posted
- "The basic method at
IdealistArchive.com will be to display "Idealistic" methods and
interpretations -- regardless of the Christian source from which it
comes (be it from a
Calvinist, Universalist, Arminian, etc). This is the same
methodology used at the other "archives," where it is demonstrated
how Christians throughout the ages have endorsed a particular
interpretation, even if their fundamental method is different from
the position able to be advocated by their quote. The goal in
this is not to misrepresent the author at all here... but to show
how they are in agreement with an Idealist interpretation with the
subject at hand."
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MI: Todd Dennis -
Eternal Ship with Historical Anchors

9/16/7:

9/14/7:
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9/12/7:
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Free Online Books: II: Harvey
Marriott -
A Fourth Course of Practical Sermons
(1829) "May we,
my brethren, take heed lest our prayers be tainted with that worldly
character which shall show us to Him, before whom "all hearts be
open, and all desires known," as hoping for things temporal while we
use words significant of things spiritual. "
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II:
C.S. Lewis: "Our spiritual life manifests itself through our
physical life. Spiritual things must be spiritually understood.
There will always be people who say that religion is nothing but
psychological need, justice nothing but self-protection, love
nothing but lust, and thought nothing but twitching of grey matter
in the brain. People who think this way are like a dog that looks at
the pointing finger instead of what the finger is point at. They
miss the meaning of everything." (quoted in Surprised by C.S.
Lewis, George MacDonald & Dante By Kathryn Ann Lindskoog, p.
130)
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CHARTS

NT History as Parable

Does Heavenly Light disperse using Historical Particles or Everlasting
Waves?

Eternal Ship with Historical Anchors

The Focal Point of Bible Prophecy

The Pathway of Revelation

How Heaven and Earth Pass Away

Tension between Philosophical and Theological Idealism
"The
good to be got out of all this tendency
is the deeper appreciation of facts, the closer
and wider study of all the phenomena of the
spiritual life, as exhibited in the whole course
of man's spiritual history. Religious thought
must keep near to religious experience, and
only with great caution stretch its wings
beyond." Tulloch
"A new
breakthrough approach for understanding the past-fulfillment and ongoing
relevance of the book of Revelation has been published in the latest
issue of the Journal of the
Evangelical Theological Society (December, 2006). It is titled, “
An Exegetical Basis for a Preterist-Idealist Understanding of the Book
of Revelation” by
John Noe.
This proposed preterist-idealist solution to
the problem of conflicting and confusing end-time views is being further
developed for presentation and outworking in forthcoming books and articles
from this author. The Evangelical Theological Society is the
professional society of conservative, evangelical scholars. Its purpose is
“to foster conservative Biblical scholarship by providing a medium for the
oral exchange and written expression of thought and research in the general
field of the theological disciplines as centered in the Scriptures.”
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