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See Also: Website Introduction | Definitions, Classifications and Acronym, Color Key METHODS OF THEOLOGICAL IDEALISM
Below is a condensed look at quotes and works which explain and/or display the approaches to Scripture held by both Historical and Modern Idealism. Eventually, in what may take years to fully develop, all forms of Idealism will be clearly classified and differentiated. |
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Ludovici
ab Alcasar (1614)
On Revelation 1:7, and the 15th Hermeneutical
Principle : "And this was accomplished in such a manner, that the
universal mechanism of things created should maintain a most beautiful
harmony with the wonderful counsel of God in the salvation of men ; and
that things corporeal should subserve to the representation of those
which are spiritual." (Vestigatio
Arcani Sensus in Apocalypsi)
Pseudo Clement (145)
"Now
the Church, being spiritual was manifested in the flesh
of Christ, thereby showing us that if any of us guard
her in the flesh and defile her not, he shall receive
her again in the Holy Spirit: for this flesh is the
counterpart and copy of the spirit. No man therefore,
when he hath defiled the copy, shall receive the
original for his portion. This therefore is what He meaneth, brethren; Guard ye the flesh, that ye may
partake of the spirit." "For the Lord Himself, being asked by one when His kingdom would come, replied, "When two shall be one, that which is without as that which is within, and the male with the female, neither male nor female." And "that which is without as" that which is within meaneth
this: He calls the soul "that which is within," and the
body "that which is without." ""the Books and the Apostles teach that the church is not of the present, but from the beginning. For it was spiritual, as was also our Jesus, and was made manifest at the end of the days
in order to save us." ("Second
Clement", Chapter
14)
Toby Janicki (2007)
"Yet, before we point
fingers at that generation we should remember the old
rabbinic dictum, "each generation in which the Temple is not
rebuilt should count itself as being among those who brought
its destruction." (Destruction
in Jerusalem: The Spirit vs. the Letter)
INCIDENTAL IDEALIST APPROACHES
Wilhelm
Martin Leberecht De Wette (1826)
"However
strongly the historic standpoint is to be asserted, we must yet insist
also that the work contains an ideally prophetic element, which has
force even for us." (An Historico-Critical Introduction to the
Canonical Books of the New Testament)
Steve
Gregg
"The idealist [herein labeled the "spiritual"
approach] views the Revelation as a great drama involving
the transcendent truths such as the conflict between
righteousness and unrighteousness or the victory over
Satan." (Revelation: Four Views, xiv.)
"What I am calling the spiritual approach (often called the idealist or symbolic approach) to Revelation does not attempt to find individual fulfillments of the visions but takes Revelation to be a great drama depicting transcendent spiritual realities, such as the spiritual conflict between Christ and Satan, between the saints and the antichristian world powers, and depicting the heavenly vindication and final victory of Christ and his saints. Fulfillment is seen either as entirely spiritual or as recurrent, finding representative expression in historical events throughout the age, rather than in one-time, specific fulfillments. The prophecy is thus rendered applicable to Christians in any age." (Revelation: Four Views, p. 2-3)
"..most modern commentators, both of the evangelical wing and of the literary-critical type, have mixed some of the ideas of the spiritual approach with one of the other historically-based approaches. This is not a difficult merger to effect, as Pieters rightly observes: [Spiritual] interpretations combine readily with those of the Preterists or of the Historicists, because any symbol, understood by them to refer to a certain force or tendency may be considered fulfilled in any event in which such a force or tendency is dominant." (Revelation: Four Views, p. 44)
"The most common tendency is to mix the spiritual approach with the preterist and then either call their view preterism, leave their view unlabeled, or give it an original name." (p. 44)
William Hendricksen
"PROPOSITION VI. The seals, trumpets, bowls of
wrath, and similar symbols refer not to specific events,
particular happenings, or details of history, but to
principles - of human conduct and of divine moral government
- that are operating throughout the history of the world,
especially throughout the new dispensation. [idealism]
PROPOSITION VII. The Apocalypse is rooted in contemporaneous events and circumstances. Its symbols should be interpreted in light of the conditions which prevailed when the book was written. [preterism]." (More than Conquerers, pp. 43-45, quoted and noted by Gregg)
Ron Maness
"It is here that we should note that the lines
are not as clearly drawn as one might imagine. For example,
one common tendency is to mix the spiritual approach
with the preterist, such as Leon Morris and Michael
Wilcock. Gregg also classifies William Hendriksen’s
commentary as “essentially spiritual/idealist in
character, with some preterist or historicist
elements” (page 45). George Eldon Ladd is a futurist
who believes that “the correct method of interpreting
Revelation is the blending of the preterist and
futurist methods” (page 46), but he also in some
instances brings in spiritual/idealist views. The
same can be said for futurist Robert Mounce." (review)
Albertus Pieters
"Today, scholars are prevailingly in favor of
this system [preterism], either unchanged, or
combines with the ideas of the Philosophy of History [spiritual]
School." (The Lamb, the Woman and the Dragon, p. 44)
J. Denny Weaver
"Idealist and preterist views
are complementary rather than mutually exclusive. The
universal message derived from idealist interpretation
supplies the contemporary relevance of a preterist
interpretation. This comparison of views shows that the
combination of a preterist approach with the general meaning
of an idealist view is the only approach that takes
seriously both the significance of symbolism for
first-century readers along with relevance for contemporary
readers." (Revelation as Nonviolent Rhetoric, Introduction)
PRINCIPLES AND APPROACHES
Luis de Alcasar
(1614)
"I say a profound philosophy
teaches, that in the Creation of things it was the intention
of the Artificer and Builder, that in those objects of
Creation which come within the reach of our vision, men
might also be in possession of wonderful symbols and
hieroglyphics, serving to point out to them mystically such
lessons as would most highly concern them, viz., true
instruction in faith and morals.
Origen, after pursuing the subject in a beautiful train of reasoning, concludes at last with the following words, 'Therefore may all things be referred upward from the visible to the invisible, from the corporeal to the incorporeal, from the manifest to the hidden ; so that the objects of the world may be understood to be created by divine Wisdom according to such a divine dispensation, as from visible things, by means of the things and exemplars themselves, teaches us the invisible, and transfers us from earthly things to those which are of heaven.' Thus far Origen ; who doubts not that, in the creation of things corporeal, it was the principal design of the divine Artificer that they should be symbols and traces, as it were, of the mysteries of our faith. Therefore the merely natural office proper to every particular thing, in virtue of which it ministers to other bodies, and in which the philosophy of Aristotle rests, by no means satisfies the infinite Wisdom of God, and His especial providence in the salvation of souls ; nor indeed His own wonderful counsel whereby He hath determined to raise us from the corporeal to the incorporeal. It is probable, therefore, that the omnipotence of God, when He had the power of making infinite species of souls, plants, and stones, selected and created out of the infinite things which he had in his power, such as were the more apt to signify the mysteries of our salvation, and a conformably moral instruction. "And this was accomplished in such a manner, that the universal mechanism of things created should maintain a most beautiful harmony with the wonderful counsel of God in the salvation of men ; and that things corporeal should subserve to the representation of those which are spiritual." Vestigatio Arcani Sensus in Apocalypsi
John Chrysostom
"Since Scripture addresses human beings and uses also
human illustrations, which are indeed insufficient to
represent the thing spoken of, those which exhibit the full
proportions of the matter, suffice for the infirmity of the
hearers". ("Homily 2: After Eutropius Having Being Found
Outside the Church had been Taken Captive," Nicene and
Post-Nicene Fathers (Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1956,
p. 258)
Alpheus Crosby
"It may be remarked
alike of Dr. Lightfoot and of most of his successors in the figurative
interpretation, and that without any disparagement of their merits, that
they have been more successful in establishing the necessity of such an
interpretation, than in rising to the fulness and spirituality of the
figurative sense. They have rested too much in the outward, to the neglect
of the inward; too much in the sign, to the neglect of the thing signified.
Their thoughts have been too much occupied with the intense tragedy of the
destruction of Jerusalem, and too little with those vast, those infinite
spiritual transactions, of which that destruction was a mere circumstance.
They have rested too much in the outward, to the neglect of the inward; too
much in the sign, to the neglect of the thing signified." (The Second
Advent: Or, What Do the Scriptures Teach, Respecting the Second Coming of
Christ, Page 131)
Samuel
Lee
"In all which cases it should be remembered, that
language is the mere vehicle of things conceived of,
or entertained, in the mind : and that the things
themselves, so entertained, are the great objects of our
inquiries ; and hence, that we should not confuse ourselves
and others, by inconsiderately mistaking one for the other."
(The Events and Times of the Visions of Daniel and St John
investigated. . xxi)
Peter J. Leithart, Ph.D.
"[T]ropologically, the history of
Jerusalem can be understood as a model for the history of
the soul (secundum tropologiam). Just as David
conquered Jerusalem and set up the Lord's throne there, so
Jesus, His Son, conquers the inner city of the sinner and
consecrates him as a saint, a holy one." (Peter Leithart,
Ascent to Love, pp. 22)
Tim Martin
"the Mosaic covenant
(sanctions and all) pictured greater, eternal realities in
Christ. The Mosaic Covenant is a shadow of something else -
something greater - the Covenant of Christ. It cannot
be the case that the end of the Mosaic sanctions mean that
all covenant curses are ended. If that were the case, Jesus
really did come to destroy (abrigate) the Law. Yet, he did
not come to abrogate the law, he came to fulfill it (Matt.
5)- bring it up to its fullest measure. The Mosaic sanction
are typological. This is what the Comprehensive Grace'rs
(and the Theonomists for that matter) miss. The blessings
and curses of the Mosaic covenant are pictures of the
reality of the blessings and curses which are inseparable
components of Christ's covenant. I agree the Mosaic
sanctions have ended, but NOT THE REALITIES THEY POINTED TO.
Christ's covenant is greater than Moses'." (Discussion
Board)
Kurt Simmons
"The temple ritual and Mosaic law were indicative
of a larger, all-pervading reality; a reality the law and
temple ritual were created in response to, but did not
themselves make." (Christ's Eschatological Coming: Jewish or
Universal?)
Frederick Whitfield
"We are to give to everything a heavenly meaning. We
are to invest everything with a spiritual character.
The mind of heaven is to be impressed upon our words and
deeds, and on the way in which we look at all earthly
things. This will be the case if the mind is
spiritual. Everything will then take colouring of the
mind. It is not as Christians that we
shall thus see all things reflecting the deep things of God.
It will only be as our own souls are living in God's
presence." (Earthly
shadows of the heavenly kingdom, p. 13)
What Others Have Said on Historical Idealism
Steve Gregg
(1997)
"..most modern commentators, both of the
evangelical wing and of the literary-critical type, have
mixed some of the ideas of the spiritual approach
with one of the other historically-based approaches.
This is not a difficult merger to effect, as Pieters rightly
observes: [Spiritual] interpretations combine
readily with those of the Preterists or of the Historicists,
because any symbol, understood by them to refer to a certain
force or tendency may be considered fulfilled in any event
in which such a force or tendency is dominant."
"The most common tendency is to mix the spiritual approach with the preterist and then either call their view preterism, leave their view unlabeled, or give it an original name." (Revelation: Four Views, p. 44)
Dermot Moran
"I wish to re-examine the vexed issue of the possibility of
idealism in ancient and medieval philosophy with particular reference to the
case of Johannes Scottus Eriugena (c. 800–c. 877), the Irish Neoplatonic
Christian philosopher. Both Bernard Williams and Myles Burnyeat have argued that
idealism never emerged (and for Burnyeat, could not have emerged) as a genuine
philosophical position in antiquity, a claim that has had
wide currency in recent years, and now constitutes something
of an orthodoxy. Richard Sorabji
(instancing Gregory of Nyssa) and Werner Beierwaltes (citing Proclus and
Eriugena), and Eyjólfur Kjalar Emilsson (discussing Plotinus), on the other
hand, have all argued that idealism is to be found in the Neoplatonic tradition,
a tradition neglected by Burnyeat. Similarly, in a 1989 study, I argued not only that idealism
was a genuine possibility in late classical and in medieval philosophy, but that
that the ninth-century Carolingian philosopher Johannes Eriugena presents a
striking example of an extremely radical, almost
fantastical, idealism. Of course, the
whole discussion depends entirely on what is meant by ‘idealism’. Burnyeat uses
Berkeley’s immaterialism as his standard for idealism, and it is this decision,
coupled with his failure to acknowledge the legacy of German idealism, which
prevents him from seeing the classical and medieval roots of idealism more
broadly understood." (Idealism in Medieval Philosophy: The Case of Johannes
Scottus Eriugena, Abstract)
Ludovici
ab Alcasar (1614)
On Revelation 1:7, and the 15th Hermeneutical
Principle : "And this was accomplished in such a manner, that the
universal mechanism of things created should maintain a most beautiful
harmony with the wonderful counsel of God in the salvation of men ; and
that things corporeal should subserve to the representation of those
which are spiritual." (Vestigatio
Arcani Sensus in Apocalypsi)
Horatio Bonar
(1875)
"The temple was not overthrown till about
forty years after the Son of God died on the cross. The type was
preserved for a season, that the antitype might be more fully
understood. The shadow and the substance were thus for forty years
exhibited together. " (The Rent Veil)
Pseudo Clement (145)
"Now
the Church, being spiritual was manifested in the flesh
of Christ, thereby showing us that if any of us guard
her in the flesh and defile her not, he shall receive
her again in the Holy Spirit: for this flesh is the
counterpart and copy of the spirit. No man therefore,
when he hath defiled the copy, shall receive the
original for his portion. This therefore is what He meaneth, brethren; Guard ye the flesh, that ye may
partake of the spirit." "For the Lord Himself, being asked by one when His kingdom would come, replied, "When two shall be one, that which is without as that which is within, and the male with the female, neither male nor female." And "that which is without as" that which is within meaneth
this: He calls the soul "that which is within," and the
body "that which is without." ""the Books and the Apostles teach that the church is not of the present, but from the beginning. For it was spiritual, as was also our Jesus, and was made manifest at the end of the days
in order to save us." ("Second
Clement", Chapter
14)
George Fox
"And as Daniel's windows were opened towards outward
Jerusalem
, in the time of the informers, when he prayed to his God,
as he did before in the time when they were not. And
therefore should not all your windows and doors be open
towards heavenly
Jerusalem
, your mother, that God may come in and help you against the
false mother and her children. And therefore keep your
meetings in the time of sufferings, as you did before, and
preach the word in season, and out of season; the word, I
say, that commands the clouds and storms, and was before
they were. And therefore blessed are those eyes that see the
sun of righteousness that never sets, the sun of
righteousness that changes not; for the prophet speaks of a
sun and moon that shall be turned into darkness, before the
notable day of the Lord come; and where this notable day of
the Lord is seen, and by whom it is seen, they see the
glorious son of God, the son of righteousness, by whom were
all things, who is over all things, who is the head of his
people, and dwells in them, who is present with them, and
who was, and will be, to all eternity; of whose kingdom
there is no end, who is God over all, blessed for ever." ("Collection
Of Many Select And Christian Epistles, Letters And
Testimonies")
Ernest Hengstenberg
"The great variety
of these references (preterist, historicist, futurist)
has arisen solely from the circumstance, that the
prophecy has not been reduced to its fundamental
idea. This fundamental idea is, the manifestation
of God's punitive justice upon all which is hostile to
His kingdom, which runs parallel with the manifestation
of His grace towards the subjects of His kingdom.
This idea appears here, in all its generality, without
any temporal limitation whatsoever. Not one of
these interpretations, therefore, can be absolutely
right. They differ only in this, that some of them
are altogether false, inasmuch as they assume a
reference to events which do not at all fall under the
fundamental idea ; while others are only limited and
partial views of the truth." (Christology of the Old
Testament, p. 251)
John Calvin
"God's wrath
followed the profanation of the Temple. The Jews never anticipated the final
cessation of their ceremonies, and always boasted in their peculiar external
worship, and unless God had openly demonstrated it before their eyes, they
would never have renounced their sacrifices and rites as mere shadowy
representations. Hence Jerusalem and their Temple were exposed to the
vengeance of the Gentiles. This, therefore, was the setting up of this stupefying abomination; it was a clear testimony to the wrath of God, exhorting the Jews in their confusion to boast no longer in their Temple and its holiness." (Commentary)
"we are to lay hold on that
kingdom which cannot be shaken; for the Lord shakes us for
this end, that he may really and forever establish us in
himself." (Hebrews
12:27)
Wilhelm
Martin Leberecht De Wette (1826)
"However
strongly the historic standpoint is to be asserted, we must yet insist
also that the work contains an ideally prophetic element, which has
force even for us." (An Historico-Critical Introduction to the
Canonical Books of the New Testament)
Johnathan Edwards
Typological Connection Between
Sodom and Jerusalem "Jerusalem was like Sodom, in that it was
devoted to destruction by special divine wrath; and indeed to a more
terrible destruction than that of Sodom. Therefore the like direction is
given concerning fleeing out of it with the utmost haste, without looking
behind, as the angel gave to Lot, when he bid him flee out of Sodom.
If it be inquired why Christ gave this
direction to his people to flee out of Jerusalem, in such exceeding haste,
at the first notice of the signal of her approaching destruction; I answer,
it seems to be, because fleeing out of Jerusalem was a type of fleeing out
of a state of sin. Escaping out of that unbelieving city typified an escape
out of a state of unbelief. Therefore they were directed to flee without
staying to take anything out of their houses, to signify with what haste and
concern we should flee out of a natural condition, that no respect to any
worldly enjoyment should prevent us one moment, and that we should flee to
Jesus Christ, the refuge of souls, our strong rock, and the mount of our
defense, so as, in fleeing to him, to leave and forsake heartily all earthly
things." (Folly
of Looking Back in Fleeing Out of Sodom)
Patrick Fairbairn
(1854)
"Thus, the deliverance accomplished
from the yoke of Babylon formed a fitting stepping-stone to the main
subject of the prophecy - the revelation of God in the person and work
in the Son. The certainty of the one - a certainty soon to
be realized - was a pledge of the ultimate certainty of the other ; and
the character also of the former, as a singular and unexpected
manifestation of the Lord's power to deliver his people and lay their
enemies in the dust, was a prefiguration of what was to be accomplished
once for all in the salvation to be wrought out by Jesus Christ. There
are few portions of Old Testament prophecy, which altogether resemble
the one we have been considering. Perhaps that which approaches
nearest to it, in the mode of combining type with prophecy, is the
thirty-fourth chapter of Isaiah, which is not a direct and simple
delineation of the judgments that were destined to alight upon Idumea,
but rather an ideal representation of the judgments preparing to alight
on the enemies generally of God's people, founded upon the approaching
desolations of Edom, which it contemplates as the type of the
destruction which awaits all the adversaries." (The
Typology of Scripture - Two Volumes in One
2nd., 1854; pp. 125-126)
Toby Janicki (2007)
"Yet, before we point
fingers at that generation we should remember the old
rabbinic dictum, "each generation in which the Temple is not
rebuilt should count itself as being among those who brought
its destruction." (Destruction
in Jerusalem: The Spirit vs. the Letter)
Isaac Penington
"To the Jews, who were an outward people, there was
an outward rule given, a law of commandments,
statutes, judgments, and ordinances, proper to that
state wherein they were, and to that thing to which the ministry was: but
all this was to be done away, and to end in that which
all this represented. So that to Christians, Christ the
substance being come, which is the end of all these
shadows, the true Jew being raised in the immediate
life, now there is a necessity for the immediate life
for the rule." (Axe
Laid to the Root of the OLD CORRUPT TREE; and the Spirit
of Deceit struck at in its Nature)
"But doth not the apostle tell you, ‘The veil is over their hearts when Moses is read?’ And the old testament and vail are done away by Christ in his new testament and new covenant of light, life, and grace. And they that do not believe it, the vail is over them, and their glory is no glory; and they are under the ministration of death and condemnation, and not under the ministration of the new testament of life; for the veil remains untaken away in reading of the old testament. ‘And even to this day, whilst Moses is read, the veil is over their hearts,’ as the apostle saith."
Prophetic & Typological
Imagery Pointing to Personal Realities in Christ
Ludwig Eichrodt
"But while in prophecy the messenger of God
proclaims the future which has been opened to him and
seen by him, a type possesses its significance, pointing
into the future, independently of any human medium and
purely through its objective factual reality; and in
many cases its function is still hidden for contemporary
people and is disclosed only when the gaze is turned
backward from the New Testament time of salvation. From
this point of view one might designate typology as "objectivized
prophecy." It differentiates it, first from allegory,
which has often been lumped together with typology, so
that the latter has often had to bear the burden of the
former's errors. Yet it is quite impossible to confuse
the two if we look at them closely. For typology, the
historical value of the text to be interpreted forms the
essential presupposition for the use of it. For
allegory, on the contrary, this is indifferent or even
offensive, and must be pushed to one side to make room
for the 'spiritual' sense which lies behind." (EOTH:
229)
J. Nelson Kraybill
"Because Revelation is poetry and metaphor, it is
inappropriate to "nail down" a precise meaning for every
image. It is possible, though, to discern overall
contours of what the book meant to the first readers.
Then we listen to what the Spirit is saying to the
church today through the same images." (Christianity
Today, 10/25/99)
M. Guyon
"When Jesus Christ directs us in the “Lord’s prayer” to
ask for “His kingdom to come,” He desires us next to
say: “Thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven.” In
other words, He asks us to say this: That you might
reign, O God, we must make such a complete renunciation
of self that, having no longer a will of our own, we do
“your will” only, never our own, and do it as perfectly
as the blessed “in heaven.” They do it the more
perfectly as they are most completely free from the
encumbrances of self. That the kingdom of Jesus Christ
must come is beyond question: this takes place by the
loss of our will in God’s after the gospel of the
kingdom has been preached. The Gospel has been preached
in all the world, but the gospel of the kingdom has been
welcomed in but few hearts. When men learn, however,
what it means to let Jesus Christ be King by complete
self-renunciation, then they will endeavor to enter this
kingdom. Then will the “Dragon” be chained. The Dragon
is none other than self-love." (OF
THE COMING OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD BY THE INWARD LIFE)
William Edward Painter
(1858)
"The real point and full force of the apostle Paul's
argument is seldom apprehended : it is not that the
Jewish symbols and service typified Christ and the
service of the Christian Church ; this they did, but
this is not the argument. The argument is, that
the whole Jewish economy, though upon earth,
prefigured an economy not confined to the earth ;
and that although the correspondency between the
different parts of the Jewish economy prefigured a
relationship which should subsist between the analogous
ordinances in the Christian Church, yet the sphere and
the locality being enlarged to heaven, by the
ascension thither of the Head of the Church, this
enlargement and transference rendered our service
toto coelo different from that of the Jewish
economy." ("Church
of England Quarterly Review", vol. xi., p. 277)